what that has raised i think has really raised some issues on the governance structure and how wal-mart has handled those issues. it also has reunited or reenergized the anti-wal-mart coalition that has been active in the united states for many years, but which has lost its momentum a little bit over the last few years. > and one case that disappointed many people: lance armstrong. > > yes, lance armstrong, it is obviously a personal tragedy, it has to do with his life as a cyclist. but it also has brought to attention some of the challenges that nonprofits and charitable foundations face - in this case, it was because of the association with lance armstrong. another organization on the list, komen foundation, also found itself in the spotlight. so that shows that not-for-profits have reputations themselves, and need to worry about them just as much as corporations. > and chick-fil-a also getting a mention by you as well. > > that's right. > good to have you on the show today. that is daniel diermeier, he is a professor at the kellogg school of management. always a pleasure. > > thank y